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Saturday, February 19, 2005
America's Condition Greene
Newt: My mommy always said there were no monsters - no real ones - but there are.
Ripley: Yes there are, aren't there?
Newt: Why do they tell little kids that?
Ripley: Most of the time it's true....
Paging Dr Greene
Last week an Oregon psychiatrist, Dr. George F. Wittkopp, was forced out of his practice because, to help some patients, he had given them "information on the 'New World Order,' an international conspiracy 'to establish world government and a world economic system and a world religion.'" That's all I know, so I can't defend or condemn Dr Wittkopp's methods, or teaching tools. (And as researcher John Judge has said, not all conspiracies are created equal. Sometimes, even often, they're simply wrong.) Still, I can see the hypothetical case for a doctor to tell certain patients something like, "You know what? It's not all in your head. They really are after you."
Here, regretably, is more than a hypothetical. In an earlier post I quoted testimony from mind control survivor Claudia Mullen before the 1995 Presidential Commission on Radiation Experiments. Ms Mullen's therapist, Dr Valerie Wolf, also testified:
In preparation for my testimony at these hearings, I called nearly 40 therapists across the country to find out what they knew about the link between radiation and mind control and to get what other therapists were seeing in clients who had been used in mind control experiments.
...
Generally, it appears that therapists across the country are finding clients who have been subjected to mind control techniques. The consistency of their stories about the purpose of the mind control and torture techniques such as electric shock, use of hallucinogens, sensory deprivation, spinning, hypnosis, dislocation of limbs and sexual abuse is remarkable. There is almost nothing published on this aspect of mind control used with children and these clients come from all over the country, having had no contact with each other.
...
These clients have named the same people, particularly a Dr. Greene. I had heard Dr. Greene's name for several years associated with clients' reports of childhood torture, mind control techniques and childhood sexual abuse. One of my clients, who had seen him with a name tag, identified him as Dr. L. Wilson Greene. I made inquiries and to my surprise found out that a person with this same name was the Scientific Director of the Chemical and Radiological Laboratories at the Army Chemical Center and that he was engaged in doing research for the Army and the CIA.
It needs to be made clear that these clients have remembered these names and events spontaneously with free recall and without the use of any memory retrieval techniques such as hypnosis. As much as possible, we have tried to verify the memories. I have sent information from one of my clients to Alan Schefflin, Professor of Law at Santa Clara University Law School. He has been able to confirm that the information that she has supplied is absolutely true and that her memories could not have been derived from any published source. This client simply came into my office one day with MKULTRA written on a piece of paper after about 9 months of therapy. Another client's memories about the CIA connection to Dr. Greene appeared spontaneously several months ago. She has memories of being exposed to radiation. I had never mentioned anything about government research or the CIA to either of them prior to the time that their memories emerged spontaneously.
A little more on "Dr Greene" from Will Snodgrass's interview of Wolf, Mullen, and another trauma survivor in Wolf's care, Chris DeNicola Ebner:
Will Snodgrass: Claudia, do you remember Dr. Greene?
Claudia Mullen: Very well. The first time I met him was, from my understanding now, most of the time he kept himself disguised and used different names depending on what part of the country he was in. At Tulane, he saw no reason to do that I guess, and he would wear a white coat just like any other doctor, and he would wear a name tag, Dr. L. Wilson Greene. But he didn't like anyone calling him anything but "Doctor." He didn't even like being called Dr. Greene. I knew him from the years 1957 until about five years before he died in 1988.
Will Snodgrass: So Dr. Greene was operating at Tulane University and also at Kansas?
Valerie Wolf: And at Tucson. Dr. Greene has been reported — he is probably the most consistent figure or doctor that's been reported by almost everybody. He went under the names of Dr. Green, Dr. Greenbaum, Greentree, Greenberg. But always with the Green in his name. He travelled throughout the country, training people, doing consultation and also doing stuff on his own, I think, as Chris experienced.
Chris DeNicola Ebner: He used disguise with me as well. I never saw him without a surgical mask, usually something on his head, and all I ever saw was a little bit of the black rimmed glasses and whatever. He was just a sadistic, evil man, and he hated me because I would not comply with what he wanted me to do.
And we can follow Dr Greene right down the rabbit hole with the lecture "Hypnosis in Multiple Personality Disorder: Ritual Abuse" by Dr D Corydon Hammond, President of the American Society of Clinical Hypnosis, delivered at the Fourth Annual Eastern Regional Conference on Abuse and Multiple Personality in 1992. It's come to be known as the "Greenbaum Speech". The Psychiatric Institute of Washington, sponsor of the event, still makes available tapes and transcripts of the other sessions. Not of this one:
When you start to find the same highly esoteric information in different states and different countries, from Florida to California, you start to get an idea that there's something going on that is very large, very well coordinated, with a great deal of communication and sytematicness to what's happening. So I have gone from someone kind of neutral and not knowing what to think about it all to someone who clearly believes ritual abuse is real and that the people who say it isn't are either naive like people who didn't want to believe the Holocaust or -- they're dirty.
...
Let's suppose that this whole front row here are multiples and that she has an alter named Helen and she has one named Mary, she has one named Gertrude, she has one named Elizabeth, and she has one named Monica. Every one of those alters may have put on it a program, perhaps designated alpha-zero-zero-nine a Cult person could say, "Alpha-zero-zero-nine" or make some kind of hand gesture to indicate this and get the same part out in any one of them even though they had different names that they may be known by to you. Alphas appear to represent general programming, the first kind of things put in. Betas appear to be sexual programs. For example, how to perform oral sex in a certain way, how to perform sex in rituals, having to do with producing child pornography, directing child pornography, prostitution. Deltas are killers trained in how to kill in ceremonies. There'll also be some self-harm stuff mixed in with that, assassination and killing. Thetas are called psychic killers.
You know, I had never in my life heard those two terms paired together. I'd never heard the words "psychic killers" put together, but when you have people in different states, including therapists inquiring and asking, "What is Theta," and patients say to them, "Psychic killers," it tends to make one a believer that certain things are very systematic and very widespread.
...
I remember one therapist who'd been with me in several hypnosis workshops and consulted with me about a crisis MPD situation. I told her to inquire about Alpha, Beta, Delta, Theta. She did. She got back to me saying, "Yeah, I got an indication it's there. What is it?" I said, "I'm not going to tell you. Go back and inquire about some of this." We set an appointment for a week or so hence. She got back with me and said, "I asked what Theta was and she said, 'psychic killers.' I asked her what Delta was and she said 'killers.'" Okay. So I told her about some of this stuff for a two-hour consult. She called back and she said, "This seemed too fantastic. I heard this and I thought, 'Has Cory been working too hard?'" she said, I'm embarrassed to admit it, but she said, "I held you in high professional regard, but this just sounded so off in the twilight zone that I really thought, 'Is he having a nervous breakdown or something?'" She said, "But I respected you enough to ask about this."
...
It appears that below this we've got some other layers. One is called "Green Programming" it appears. Isn't it interesting that the doctor's name is Dr. Green? One of the questions in a way that does not contaminate is after I've identified some of this stuff is there and they've given me a few right answers about what some of it is, "If there were a doctor associated with this programming and his name were a color, you know, like Dr. Chartreuse or something, if his name were a color, what color would the color be?" Now once in a while I've had some other colors mentioned in about three or four patients that I felt were trying to dissimulate in some way and I don't really believe had this. In one case I got another color and I found out later it was a doctor whose name was a color who was being trained by Dr. Green almost thirty years ago and he supervised part of the programming of this woman under this doctor.
...
[Self-destruct] Omega alters use the metaphor -- and it is their metaphor -- of robots. and it is like a robot shell comes down over the child alter to make them act in robotic fashion. Once in a while internally you'll confront robots.
...
A while back I was talking to a small group of therapists somewhere. I told them about some of this. In the middle of talking about some of this all the color drained out of one social worker's face and she obviously had a reaction and I asked her about and she said, "I'm working with a five-year-old boy," and she said, "Just in the last few weeks he was saying something about a Dr. Green." I went on a little further and I mentioned some of these things and she just shook her head again. I said, "What's going on?" She said, "He's been spontaneously telling me about robots and about Omega." I think you will find variations of this and that they've changed it, probably every few years and maybe somewhat regionally to throw us off in various ways but that certain basics and fundamentals will probably be there. I have seen this in people up into their forties including people whose parents were very, very high in the CIA.
Apart from the testimony of survivors and their psychologists, there's not much to be found on "Dr Green," "Dr Greenbaum" or even "Dr L Wilson Greene." Except that what does exist suggests someone essential to the germination of CIA mind control research. Linda Hunt, in her Secret Agenda: The United States Government, Nazi Scientists and Project Paperclip, 1945 to 1990, names "Edgewood's L. Wilson Greene" as the foremost proponent of psychochemical warfare in the late '40s, saying he had suggested setting aside $50,000 in the 1950 budget to study the effects of "61 compounds ranging from alcohol to mescaline," that could induce "hysteria, panic, seizures, and hallucinations" in enemy forces. This study appears to have triggered Greene's interest in mind control. Tad Szulc, in "The CIA's Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" (Psychology Today, November 1977), writes that the "man whom the CIA documents credit with inspiring the program is Dr. L. Wilson Greene of the Army Chemical Corps, who had long urged the United States to embark upon psychochemical warfare."
The program was BLUEBIRD, the deliberate creation of multiple personalities. BLUEBIRD was soon renamed ARTICHOKE, after a favourite vegetable of CIA Director Allen Dulles. ARTICHOKE in turn gave way to MKULTRA and MKSEARCH.
Dr Orne to the rescue
Naturally, the official record remains sketchy, accidental and heavily redacted, as Richard Helms ordered all files on mind control destroyed before he left the directorate. Officially, the programs registered nothing but failures. "We are sufficiently ineffective so that our findings can be published," says Dr Martin Orne, a longtime covert CIA consultant, in John Marks' The Search for The "Manchurian Candidate." Though ex-CIA officer Miles Copeland also told Marks that "the congressional subcommittee which [studied mind control] got only the barest glimpse." The CIA experimented with a number of mind control techniques, and research was heavily compartmentalized.
Orne's remarks suggest that had the Agency hit upon an effective technique, it would surely remain unpublished, highly classified and scrubbed from the records, such as they exist. So perhaps we shouldn't hold our breath awaiting official confirmation of success, particularly if it involved the deliberate fragmentation of the minds of children to create programmable "alters."
And let's talk about Orne for a moment. He was a frequent recipient of grants from the Human Ecology Society, which Marks calls a "CIA-controlled funding mechanism for studies and experiments in the behavioral sciences." An MK-ULTRA official told Marks, "We could go to Orne anytime and say, 'Okay, here is a situation and here is a kind of guy. What would you expect we might be able to achieve if we could hypnotize him?' Through his massive knowledge, he could speculate and advise."
In Psychic Dictatorship in the USA, Alex Constantine writes:
The voluminous files of John Marks in Washington, D.C. (139 boxes obtained under FOIA, to be exact, two-fifths of which document CIA interest in the occult) include an Agency report itemizing a $30,000 grant to Orne from Human Ecology, and another $30,000 from Boston's Scientific Engineering Institute (SEI) - another CIA funding cover, founded by Edwin Land of the Polaroid Corporation (and supervision of the U-2 spy plane escapades). This was the year that the CIA's Office of Research and Development (ORD) geared up a study of parapsychology and the occult. The investigation, dubbed Project OFTEN-CHICKWIT, gave rise to the establishment of a social "laboratory" by SEI scientists at the University of South Carolina - a college class in black witchcraft, demonology and voodoo.
So what should we make of the fact that Dr Martin Orne, the CIA's "go to" guy on mind control, went on to become a founding member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation? The primary purpose of which, writes Constantine, "is the castigation of survivors and therapists for fabricating accusations of ritual abuse"?
Okay - So what?
Why dig into this now, when America seems to be presenting more pressing horrors demanding our revulsion?
Because this is unfinished business. Because so long as the abuse remains unexposed, we should presume it's ongoing.
And because overshadowing barely whispered scandals such as the Franklin Credit Union and the Bush White House call boys, and the perverse abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, and perhaps now even the "Jeff Gannon" story, there is the suggestion of a sheltered sex and death cult, which may be the true religion of the National Security State.
Studying this material, and most importantly, honouring the victims with unprejudiced hearing, may not tell us only where America went wrong, but how far wrong it's yet to go.
A hint, perhaps, from investigative journalist Jon Rappoport, in 1995:
About three weeks ago I met a woman who is a therapist. She works north of Los Angeles. If you met this woman and talked to her, you would say 'she's very on top of things, she is very smart, she seems like a real human being.' So she looks at me and she says, "I was part of this when I was a kid, as a child." She doesn't want to talk about it yet, but she said, "this business about creating perfect spies, I don't think that's it. I don't think that's why they were really doing it.... I think there is something beyond this. It is somewhere in the back of my mind, but I can't get to it." I didn't question her about how she knows this, but she said "First of all this was a very wide-ranging project ... there were echelons of the project, not just simply one level. There were children brought up from South America and Mexico. They were considered expendable. They were used with the crudest techniques of brainwashing and so forth. The idea was to learn from this techniques in a more refined way techniques that would be used on another echelon of children. The best and brightest in America." I said, "Do you mean children from well-to-do families?" She said, "Not necessarily. The smartest."
They could be thinking that what they want to do is program these kids who would later, supposedly, emerge in prominent positions in society, so that they would then have long term control of society by controlling people in power positions. She said (she didn't say "yes") but she said, "Well, yeah, that makes sense.... They brought a lot of doctors over here after the War and not just the rocket scientists ... they brought a lot of doctors over here." And all throughout this testimony you will read, sprinkled here, "a doctor with a German accent.... was it Green? ... he had blonde hair...."
posted by Jeff at 12:09 AM
6 Comments:
Anonymous said...
Anonymous One,Jeff take a look into the book called Harvard and the Unabomber:the education of an american terrorist.You will find the name Henry W. Murry to be of great importance,the man had control of Teddy for three years at Harvard.This cat has some kind of back ground,hard to belive this was going on at campuses around the country.Let's not forget Montreal with Dr.Camrin,I wonder what he was listening to, on the ride home to Lake Placid every night?Later.
3:27 PM
bin'dare said...
Orne, Skinner, Murray, Kaczynski:
It turns out that Theodore Kaczynski, the Unabomber, was a volunteer in mind-control experiments sponsored by the CIA at Harvard in the late 1950s and early 1960s.
www.freedomdomain.com/mindcon...i01.html
The connection:
Skinner joined Harvard in 1948, joining Orne, the head of ONR's committee on Hypnosis and the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Also there was (Timothy) Leary, Alpert, and Murray. Murray oversaw the work of Leary's Psychedelic Drug Research Program.
They all got substantial funding from both the CIA and the Army. In fact, Murray had been recruited during World War II by Wild Bill Donovan himself.
Interesting personal recollections at:
www.konformist.com/2000/psych-lies.htm
What you don't know can't hurt them
Saturday, February 19, 2005
America's Condition Greene
Newt: My mommy always said there were no monsters - no real ones - but there are.
Ripley: Yes there are, aren't there?
Newt: Why do they tell little kids that?
Ripley: Most of the time it's true....
Paging Dr Greene
Last week an Oregon psychiatrist, Dr. George F. Wittkopp, was forced out of his practice because, to help some patients, he had given them "information on the 'New World Order,' an international conspiracy 'to establish world government and a world economic system and a world religion.'" That's all I know, so I can't defend or condemn Dr Wittkopp's methods, or teaching tools. (And as researcher John Judge has said, not all conspiracies are created equal. Sometimes, even often, they're simply wrong.) Still, I can see the hypothetical case for a doctor to tell certain patients something like, "You know what? It's not all in your head. They really are after you."
Here, regretably, is more than a hypothetical. In an earlier post I quoted testimony from mind control survivor Claudia Mullen before the 1995 Presidential Commission on Radiation Experiments. Ms Mullen's therapist, Dr Valerie Wolf, also testified:
In preparation for my testimony at these hearings, I called nearly 40 therapists across the country to find out what they knew about the link between radiation and mind control and to get what other therapists were seeing in clients who had been used in mind control experiments.
...
Generally, it appears that therapists across the country are finding clients who have been subjected to mind control techniques. The consistency of their stories about the purpose of the mind control and torture techniques such as electric shock, use of hallucinogens, sensory deprivation, spinning, hypnosis, dislocation of limbs and sexual abuse is remarkable. There is almost nothing published on this aspect of mind control used with children and these clients come from all over the country, having had no contact with each other.
...
These clients have named the same people, particularly a Dr. Greene. I had heard Dr. Greene's name for several years associated with clients' reports of childhood torture, mind control techniques and childhood sexual abuse. One of my clients, who had seen him with a name tag, identified him as Dr. L. Wilson Greene. I made inquiries and to my surprise found out that a person with this same name was the Scientific Director of the Chemical and Radiological Laboratories at the Army Chemical Center and that he was engaged in doing research for the Army and the CIA.
It needs to be made clear that these clients have remembered these names and events spontaneously with free recall and without the use of any memory retrieval techniques such as hypnosis. As much as possible, we have tried to verify the memories. I have sent information from one of my clients to Alan Schefflin, Professor of Law at Santa Clara University Law School. He has been able to confirm that the information that she has supplied is absolutely true and that her memories could not have been derived from any published source. This client simply came into my office one day with MKULTRA written on a piece of paper after about 9 months of therapy. Another client's memories about the CIA connection to Dr. Greene appeared spontaneously several months ago. She has memories of being exposed to radiation. I had never mentioned anything about government research or the CIA to either of them prior to the time that their memories emerged spontaneously.
A little more on "Dr Greene" from Will Snodgrass's interview of Wolf, Mullen, and another trauma survivor in Wolf's care, Chris DeNicola Ebner:
Will Snodgrass: Claudia, do you remember Dr. Greene?
Claudia Mullen: Very well. The first time I met him was, from my understanding now, most of the time he kept himself disguised and used different names depending on what part of the country he was in. At Tulane, he saw no reason to do that I guess, and he would wear a white coat just like any other doctor, and he would wear a name tag, Dr. L. Wilson Greene. But he didn't like anyone calling him anything but "Doctor." He didn't even like being called Dr. Greene. I knew him from the years 1957 until about five years before he died in 1988.
Will Snodgrass: So Dr. Greene was operating at Tulane University and also at Kansas?
Valerie Wolf: And at Tucson. Dr. Greene has been reported — he is probably the most consistent figure or doctor that's been reported by almost everybody. He went under the names of Dr. Green, Dr. Greenbaum, Greentree, Greenberg. But always with the Green in his name. He travelled throughout the country, training people, doing consultation and also doing stuff on his own, I think, as Chris experienced.
Chris DeNicola Ebner: He used disguise with me as well. I never saw him without a surgical mask, usually something on his head, and all I ever saw was a little bit of the black rimmed glasses and whatever. He was just a sadistic, evil man, and he hated me because I would not comply with what he wanted me to do.
And we can follow Dr Greene right down the rabbit hole with the lecture "Hypnosis in Multiple Personality Disorder: Ritual Abuse" by Dr D Corydon Hammond, President of the American Society of Clinical Hypnosis, delivered at the Fourth Annual Eastern Regional Conference on Abuse and Multiple Personality in 1992. It's come to be known as the "Greenbaum Speech". The Psychiatric Institute of Washington, sponsor of the event, still makes available tapes and transcripts of the other sessions. Not of this one:
When you start to find the same highly esoteric information in different states and different countries, from Florida to California, you start to get an idea that there's something going on that is very large, very well coordinated, with a great deal of communication and sytematicness to what's happening. So I have gone from someone kind of neutral and not knowing what to think about it all to someone who clearly believes ritual abuse is real and that the people who say it isn't are either naive like people who didn't want to believe the Holocaust or -- they're dirty.
...
Let's suppose that this whole front row here are multiples and that she has an alter named Helen and she has one named Mary, she has one named Gertrude, she has one named Elizabeth, and she has one named Monica. Every one of those alters may have put on it a program, perhaps designated alpha-zero-zero-nine a Cult person could say, "Alpha-zero-zero-nine" or make some kind of hand gesture to indicate this and get the same part out in any one of them even though they had different names that they may be known by to you. Alphas appear to represent general programming, the first kind of things put in. Betas appear to be sexual programs. For example, how to perform oral sex in a certain way, how to perform sex in rituals, having to do with producing child pornography, directing child pornography, prostitution. Deltas are killers trained in how to kill in ceremonies. There'll also be some self-harm stuff mixed in with that, assassination and killing. Thetas are called psychic killers.
You know, I had never in my life heard those two terms paired together. I'd never heard the words "psychic killers" put together, but when you have people in different states, including therapists inquiring and asking, "What is Theta," and patients say to them, "Psychic killers," it tends to make one a believer that certain things are very systematic and very widespread.
...
I remember one therapist who'd been with me in several hypnosis workshops and consulted with me about a crisis MPD situation. I told her to inquire about Alpha, Beta, Delta, Theta. She did. She got back to me saying, "Yeah, I got an indication it's there. What is it?" I said, "I'm not going to tell you. Go back and inquire about some of this." We set an appointment for a week or so hence. She got back with me and said, "I asked what Theta was and she said, 'psychic killers.' I asked her what Delta was and she said 'killers.'" Okay. So I told her about some of this stuff for a two-hour consult. She called back and she said, "This seemed too fantastic. I heard this and I thought, 'Has Cory been working too hard?'" she said, I'm embarrassed to admit it, but she said, "I held you in high professional regard, but this just sounded so off in the twilight zone that I really thought, 'Is he having a nervous breakdown or something?'" She said, "But I respected you enough to ask about this."
...
It appears that below this we've got some other layers. One is called "Green Programming" it appears. Isn't it interesting that the doctor's name is Dr. Green? One of the questions in a way that does not contaminate is after I've identified some of this stuff is there and they've given me a few right answers about what some of it is, "If there were a doctor associated with this programming and his name were a color, you know, like Dr. Chartreuse or something, if his name were a color, what color would the color be?" Now once in a while I've had some other colors mentioned in about three or four patients that I felt were trying to dissimulate in some way and I don't really believe had this. In one case I got another color and I found out later it was a doctor whose name was a color who was being trained by Dr. Green almost thirty years ago and he supervised part of the programming of this woman under this doctor.
...
[Self-destruct] Omega alters use the metaphor -- and it is their metaphor -- of robots. and it is like a robot shell comes down over the child alter to make them act in robotic fashion. Once in a while internally you'll confront robots.
...
A while back I was talking to a small group of therapists somewhere. I told them about some of this. In the middle of talking about some of this all the color drained out of one social worker's face and she obviously had a reaction and I asked her about and she said, "I'm working with a five-year-old boy," and she said, "Just in the last few weeks he was saying something about a Dr. Green." I went on a little further and I mentioned some of these things and she just shook her head again. I said, "What's going on?" She said, "He's been spontaneously telling me about robots and about Omega." I think you will find variations of this and that they've changed it, probably every few years and maybe somewhat regionally to throw us off in various ways but that certain basics and fundamentals will probably be there. I have seen this in people up into their forties including people whose parents were very, very high in the CIA.
Apart from the testimony of survivors and their psychologists, there's not much to be found on "Dr Green," "Dr Greenbaum" or even "Dr L Wilson Greene." Except that what does exist suggests someone essential to the germination of CIA mind control research. Linda Hunt, in her Secret Agenda: The United States Government, Nazi Scientists and Project Paperclip, 1945 to 1990, names "Edgewood's L. Wilson Greene" as the foremost proponent of psychochemical warfare in the late '40s, saying he had suggested setting aside $50,000 in the 1950 budget to study the effects of "61 compounds ranging from alcohol to mescaline," that could induce "hysteria, panic, seizures, and hallucinations" in enemy forces. This study appears to have triggered Greene's interest in mind control. Tad Szulc, in "The CIA's Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" (Psychology Today, November 1977), writes that the "man whom the CIA documents credit with inspiring the program is Dr. L. Wilson Greene of the Army Chemical Corps, who had long urged the United States to embark upon psychochemical warfare."
The program was BLUEBIRD, the deliberate creation of multiple personalities. BLUEBIRD was soon renamed ARTICHOKE, after a favourite vegetable of CIA Director Allen Dulles. ARTICHOKE in turn gave way to MKULTRA and MKSEARCH.
Dr Orne to the rescue
Naturally, the official record remains sketchy, accidental and heavily redacted, as Richard Helms ordered all files on mind control destroyed before he left the directorate. Officially, the programs registered nothing but failures. "We are sufficiently ineffective so that our findings can be published," says Dr Martin Orne, a longtime covert CIA consultant, in John Marks' The Search for The "Manchurian Candidate." Though ex-CIA officer Miles Copeland also told Marks that "the congressional subcommittee which [studied mind control] got only the barest glimpse." The CIA experimented with a number of mind control techniques, and research was heavily compartmentalized.
Orne's remarks suggest that had the Agency hit upon an effective technique, it would surely remain unpublished, highly classified and scrubbed from the records, such as they exist. So perhaps we shouldn't hold our breath awaiting official confirmation of success, particularly if it involved the deliberate fragmentation of the minds of children to create programmable "alters."
And let's talk about Orne for a moment. He was a frequent recipient of grants from the Human Ecology Society, which Marks calls a "CIA-controlled funding mechanism for studies and experiments in the behavioral sciences." An MK-ULTRA official told Marks, "We could go to Orne anytime and say, 'Okay, here is a situation and here is a kind of guy. What would you expect we might be able to achieve if we could hypnotize him?' Through his massive knowledge, he could speculate and advise."
In Psychic Dictatorship in the USA, Alex Constantine writes:
The voluminous files of John Marks in Washington, D.C. (139 boxes obtained under FOIA, to be exact, two-fifths of which document CIA interest in the occult) include an Agency report itemizing a $30,000 grant to Orne from Human Ecology, and another $30,000 from Boston's Scientific Engineering Institute (SEI) - another CIA funding cover, founded by Edwin Land of the Polaroid Corporation (and supervision of the U-2 spy plane escapades). This was the year that the CIA's Office of Research and Development (ORD) geared up a study of parapsychology and the occult. The investigation, dubbed Project OFTEN-CHICKWIT, gave rise to the establishment of a social "laboratory" by SEI scientists at the University of South Carolina - a college class in black witchcraft, demonology and voodoo.
So what should we make of the fact that Dr Martin Orne, the CIA's "go to" guy on mind control, went on to become a founding member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation? The primary purpose of which, writes Constantine, "is the castigation of survivors and therapists for fabricating accusations of ritual abuse"?
Okay - So what?
Why dig into this now, when America seems to be presenting more pressing horrors demanding our revulsion?
Because this is unfinished business. Because so long as the abuse remains unexposed, we should presume it's ongoing.
And because overshadowing barely whispered scandals such as the Franklin Credit Union and the Bush White House call boys, and the perverse abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, and perhaps now even the "Jeff Gannon" story, there is the suggestion of a sheltered sex and death cult, which may be the true religion of the National Security State.
Studying this material, and most importantly, honouring the victims with unprejudiced hearing, may not tell us only where America went wrong, but how far wrong it's yet to go.
A hint, perhaps, from investigative journalist Jon Rappoport, in 1995:
About three weeks ago I met a woman who is a therapist. She works north of Los Angeles. If you met this woman and talked to her, you would say 'she's very on top of things, she is very smart, she seems like a real human being.' So she looks at me and she says, "I was part of this when I was a kid, as a child." She doesn't want to talk about it yet, but she said, "this business about creating perfect spies, I don't think that's it. I don't think that's why they were really doing it.... I think there is something beyond this. It is somewhere in the back of my mind, but I can't get to it." I didn't question her about how she knows this, but she said "First of all this was a very wide-ranging project ... there were echelons of the project, not just simply one level. There were children brought up from South America and Mexico. They were considered expendable. They were used with the crudest techniques of brainwashing and so forth. The idea was to learn from this techniques in a more refined way techniques that would be used on another echelon of children. The best and brightest in America." I said, "Do you mean children from well-to-do families?" She said, "Not necessarily. The smartest."
They could be thinking that what they want to do is program these kids who would later, supposedly, emerge in prominent positions in society, so that they would then have long term control of society by controlling people in power positions. She said (she didn't say "yes") but she said, "Well, yeah, that makes sense.... They brought a lot of doctors over here after the War and not just the rocket scientists ... they brought a lot of doctors over here." And all throughout this testimony you will read, sprinkled here, "a doctor with a German accent.... was it Green? ... he had blonde hair...."
posted by Jeff at 12:09 AM
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Anonymous said...
Anonymous One,Jeff take a look into the book called Harvard and the Unabomber:the education of an american terrorist.You will find the name Henry W. Murry to be of great importance,the man had control of Teddy for three years at Harvard.This cat has some kind of back ground,hard to belive this was going on at campuses around the country.Let's not forget Montreal with Dr.Camrin,I wonder what he was listening to, on the ride home to Lake Placid every night?Later.
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bin'dare said...
Orne, Skinner, Murray, Kaczynski:
It turns out that Theodore Kaczynski, the Unabomber, was a volunteer in mind-control experiments sponsored by the CIA at Harvard in the late 1950s and early 1960s.
www.freedomdomain.com/mindcon...i01.html
The connection:
Skinner joined Harvard in 1948, joining Orne, the head of ONR's committee on Hypnosis and the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Also there was (Timothy) Leary, Alpert, and Murray. Murray oversaw the work of Leary's Psychedelic Drug Research Program.
They all got substantial funding from both the CIA and the Army. In fact, Murray had been recruited during World War II by Wild Bill Donovan himself.
Interesting personal recollections at:
www.konformist.com/2000/psych-lies.htm
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